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Let the sons of Wali’ah stop or I will certainly send to them a man like myself

 

لينتهين بني وليعة أو لأبعثن إليهم رجلا كنفسي يقتل مقاتلتهم و يسبي ذراريهم و هو هذا ثم ضرب بيده على كتف علي بن أبي طالب

“Let the sons of Wali’ah stop or I will certainly send to them a man like myself who will kill their warriors and enslave their children. And he is this man.” He then placed his hand on ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib’s shoulder.

 

Al Haythami says, “Al Tabarani narrated it in al Awsat. ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Abdul Quddus al Tamimi is present in the isnad. Majority have labelled him da’if while Ibn Hibban has declared him reliable. The rest of the narrators are reliable.”[1]

 

‘Abdullah ibn ‘Abdul Quddus

  • Al Nasa’i comments, “He is not reliable.”[2]
  • Al Daraqutni listed him among the weak and matruk (suspected of forgery) narrators.[3]
  • Yahya ibn Ma’in remarked, “He is worthless. He resembles a madman. Children scream in his wake.[4]
  • In fact, he declared him a wretched Rafidi.[5]
  • Hafiz al Dhahabi made a similar comment.[6]
  • The author of al Mughni said that they labelled him da’if.[7]

Al Bayhaqi narrated it in al Sunan al Kubra[8] from Zaid ibn Yathi’ from Abu Dhar. Zaid is reliable. However, there is a break in the sanad. That is why the muhaqqiq of Fada’il al Sahabah said, “Mursal. Its narrators are reliable.”[9]

Al Hakim narrated it. It begins with the address:

أيها الناس إني لكم فرط

O people, I am a forerunner for you.[10]

 

Although al Hakim declared it sahih, al Dhahabi corrected him by stating that Talhah ibn Jabr is not trustworthy.

Al Haythami states that Talhah is da’if.[11]

Ibn Abi Shaybah reported it.[12] ‘Abdullah ibn Shaddad is in the isnad. He is a great Tabi’i. Muslim documents his ahadith. However, his hadith is mursal as affirmed by al Albani.[13]

 

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[1] Majma’ al Zawa’id vol. 7 pg. 110.

[2] Al Du’afa’ wa al Matrukun Biography: 337.

[3] Al Du’afa’ wa al Matrukun Biography: 320.

[4] Al Jarh wa al Ta’dil vol. 5 pg. 104.

[5] Al Kamil fi al Du’afa’ vol. 4 pg. 197; al Du’afa’ wa al Matrukun vol. 2 pg. 130.

[6] Mizan al I’tidal vol. 4 pg. 141 and vol. 8 pg. 136.

[7] Al Du’afa’ vol. 1 pg. 346.

[8] Al Sunan al Kubra vol. 5 pg. 127.

[9] Fada’il al Sahabah vol. 2 pg. 706 Hadith: 966.

[10] Al Mustadrak vol. 2 pg. 120.

[11] Majma’ al Zawa’id vol. 9 pg. 163.

[12] Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah vol. 6 pg. 369.

[13] Mujam Asami al Ruwat vol. 2 pg. 612.

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