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Ahmed authenticated the hadith of ‘Ali being the partner of Hell

 

أخبرنا أبو الفضل عبيد الله بن أحمد بن علي المقرئ ابن الكوفي بقراءتي عليه قال أخبرنا أبو حفص عمر بن إبراهيم بن أحمد الكناني المقرئ قال حدثنا أبو الحسين عمر بن الحسن القاضي الأشناني قال حدثنا إسحاق بن الحسن الحربي قال حدثني محمد بن منصور الطوسي قال كنا عند أحمد بن حنبل فقال له رجل ما تقول في هذا الحديث الذي يروي أن عليا قال أنا قسيم النار فقال أحمد و ما تنكرون من هذا الحديث أليس روينا أن النبي قال لعلي لا يحبك إلا مؤمن و لا يبغضك إلا منافق قلنا بلى قال فأين المنافق قلنا في النار قال فعلي قسيم النار

Abu al Fadl ‘Ubaidullah ibn Ahmed ibn ‘Ali al Muqri’ ibn al Kufi informed us while I was reading to him ― Abu Hafs ‘Umar ibn Ibrahim ibn Ahmed al Kinani al Muqri’ informed us saying ― Abu al Hussain ‘Umar ibn al Hassan al Qadi al Ashnani narrated to us saying ― Ishaq ibn al Hassan al Harbi narrated to us saying ― Muhammad ibn Mansur al Tusi narrated to me and said:

We were in the company of Ahmed ibn Hambal when a man asked him, “What do you say about the hadith wherein it is reported that ‘Ali said: ‘I am the partner of Hell’?”

Ahmed said, “What misgivings do you have about this hadith? Do we not narrate that Nabi salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said to ‘Ali, ‘Only a believer will love you and only a hypocrite will hate you’?”

We replied in the affirmative.

He asked, “So where is the hypocrite?”

“In Hell,” we answered.

He explained, “Like this ‘Ali becomes the partner of Hell.”

 

The narration is mawdu’ (fabricated). ‘Umar ibn al Hassan al Ashnani al Qadi Abu al Hussain is problematic.

‘Umar ibn al Hassan al Ashnani al Qadi Abu al Hussain

  • Al Daraqutni and Hassan ibn Muhammad al Khallal had declared him da’if.
  • Al Daraqutni says that he would lie.[1]
  • Al Dhahabi states, “But this al Ashnani is very problematical.”

I found another narration which reads:

 

عن موسى بن طريف عن عباية عن علي بن أبي طالب أنه قال أنا قسيم النار يوم القيامة أقول خذي ذا و ذري ذا

Musa ibn Tarif narrates from ― ‘Abayah from ― ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib that he stated, “I am the partner of Hell on the Day of Qiyamah. I will say, ‘Take this one and leave this one.’”

 

Al Albani states, “This is mawdu’.” The problem lies with Musa ibn Tarif.

Musa ibn Tarif

  • Al Juzajani says about him, “”
  • Abu ‘Ayyash declared him a liar.

Al A’mash’s disapproval of this narration which Musa ibn Tarif fabricated is confirmed. The addressed is ‘Abayah. Al A’mash said:

 

ألا تعجبون من موسى بن طريف يحدث عن عباية عن علي أنا قسيم النار

Are you not amazed with Musa ibn Tarif who reports from ‘Abayah from ‘Ali that he is the partner of Hell?[2]

 

Next⇒ Hassan al ‘Askari was asked if he had any children and he replied in the affirmative


[1] Al Du’afa’ wa al Matrukin vol. 2 pg. 206; al Mughni fi al Du’afa’ vol. 2 pg. 464.

[2] Silsilat al Ahadith al Da’ifah Hadith: 4924.

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Ahmed authenticated the hadith of ‘Ali being the partner of Hell

 

أخبرنا أبو الفضل عبيد الله بن أحمد بن علي المقرئ ابن الكوفي بقراءتي عليه قال أخبرنا أبو حفص عمر بن إبراهيم بن أحمد الكناني المقرئ قال حدثنا أبو الحسين عمر بن الحسن القاضي الأشناني قال حدثنا إسحاق بن الحسن الحربي قال حدثني محمد بن منصور الطوسي قال كنا عند أحمد بن حنبل فقال له رجل ما تقول في هذا الحديث الذي يروي أن عليا قال أنا قسيم النار فقال أحمد و ما تنكرون من هذا الحديث أليس روينا أن النبي قال لعلي لا يحبك إلا مؤمن و لا يبغضك إلا منافق قلنا بلى قال فأين المنافق قلنا في النار قال فعلي قسيم النار

Abu al Fadl ‘Ubaidullah ibn Ahmed ibn ‘Ali al Muqri’ ibn al Kufi informed us while I was reading to him ― Abu Hafs ‘Umar ibn Ibrahim ibn Ahmed al Kinani al Muqri’ informed us saying ― Abu al Hussain ‘Umar ibn al Hassan al Qadi al Ashnani narrated to us saying ― Ishaq ibn al Hassan al Harbi narrated to us saying ― Muhammad ibn Mansur al Tusi narrated to me and said:

We were in the company of Ahmed ibn Hambal when a man asked him, “What do you say about the hadith wherein it is reported that ‘Ali said: ‘I am the partner of Hell’?”

Ahmed said, “What misgivings do you have about this hadith? Do we not narrate that Nabi salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said to ‘Ali, ‘Only a believer will love you and only a hypocrite will hate you’?”

We replied in the affirmative.

He asked, “So where is the hypocrite?”

“In Hell,” we answered.

He explained, “Like this ‘Ali becomes the partner of Hell.”

 

The narration is mawdu’ (fabricated). ‘Umar ibn al Hassan al Ashnani al Qadi Abu al Hussain is problematic.

‘Umar ibn al Hassan al Ashnani al Qadi Abu al Hussain

  • Al Daraqutni and Hassan ibn Muhammad al Khallal had declared him da’if.
  • Al Daraqutni says that he would lie.[1]
  • Al Dhahabi states, “But this al Ashnani is very problematical.”

I found another narration which reads:

 

عن موسى بن طريف عن عباية عن علي بن أبي طالب أنه قال أنا قسيم النار يوم القيامة أقول خذي ذا و ذري ذا

Musa ibn Tarif narrates from ― ‘Abayah from ― ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib that he stated, “I am the partner of Hell on the Day of Qiyamah. I will say, ‘Take this one and leave this one.’”

 

Al Albani states, “This is mawdu’.” The problem lies with Musa ibn Tarif.

Musa ibn Tarif

  • Al Juzajani says about him, “”
  • Abu ‘Ayyash declared him a liar.

Al A’mash’s disapproval of this narration which Musa ibn Tarif fabricated is confirmed. The addressed is ‘Abayah. Al A’mash said:

 

ألا تعجبون من موسى بن طريف يحدث عن عباية عن علي أنا قسيم النار

Are you not amazed with Musa ibn Tarif who reports from ‘Abayah from ‘Ali that he is the partner of Hell?[2]

 

Next⇒ Hassan al ‘Askari was asked if he had any children and he replied in the affirmative


[1] Al Du’afa’ wa al Matrukin vol. 2 pg. 206; al Mughni fi al Du’afa’ vol. 2 pg. 464.

[2] Silsilat al Ahadith al Da’ifah Hadith: 4924.